Welcome, Brad. With your feet on solid ground and feeling that the WT can't harm you now, your input on this board will be much appreciated. Many of us, myself included, still have ties with the Org and have a hard time figuring out how to achieve a successful departure from the JWs without too much collateral damage.
Franklin Massey
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new to JWN
by Brad Wilson inhave been a member of jwr since 2008 and have not been to hall since june 2009, have celebrated 2 yrs without memorial - woohoo - that being said i have stopped by here frequently and decided yesterday to join your group.. it has been very enjoyable to read your stories as well as the other group i have been with, and so it just seemed reasonable to belong to both.. my story is no differant than all the others, the only thing is i was not born in.
that being said i also have no real issues with being an apostate (although i do believe it is used in the perjorative sense by the wt).. peace - brad.
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"Doom Now Awaits Them...They Will Not Survive Armageddon!"
by Franklin Massey inhere's a nice, positive, uplifting song from the jehovah's witnesses' "sing to jehovah" song book.
my favorite part is at 1:30.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wrlknhwwxs8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.
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Franklin Massey
If you mean that you can't believe you used to sing this, then, me too. It was used as the first song at our meeting yesterday and when I got to the part about not surviving Armageddon and I just stopped singing.
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"Doom Now Awaits Them...They Will Not Survive Armageddon!"
by Franklin Massey inhere's a nice, positive, uplifting song from the jehovah's witnesses' "sing to jehovah" song book.
my favorite part is at 1:30.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wrlknhwwxs8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.
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Franklin Massey
So far the video has 25 likes and 1 dislike. Check this comment out:
"exellent my fellow brother! terrific? work!
P.S. that one dislike is satan."
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"Doom Now Awaits Them...They Will Not Survive Armageddon!"
by Franklin Massey inhere's a nice, positive, uplifting song from the jehovah's witnesses' "sing to jehovah" song book.
my favorite part is at 1:30.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wrlknhwwxs8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.
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Franklin Massey
Here's a nice, positive, uplifting song from the Jehovah's Witnesses' "Sing to Jehovah" song book. My favorite part is at 1:30
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wRLkNhWwXs8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn ini'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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Franklin Massey
...right into my arms, where I scooped her up and ran like hell.
Beautiful.
You have a PM.
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn ini'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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Franklin Massey
Welcome. Your third post really packed a punch. Thanks for sharing and thanks for your honesty.
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I want to be a Jehovah's Witness again...
by TimothyT in... so i can flippin help tear it down from the inside!.
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Franklin Massey
You're better off where you are. Even with the minimal involvement I have now, it is still a burden having to particpate in the Org in any way, shape, or form. Just go on, living life to the fullest with your newfound freedom. You'll be happier for it.
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It's BACK - the 2011 Global Survey of JWs!!
by cedars ini'm pleased to announce that despite some considerable teething troubles (of which many of you will be aware!
), the 2011 survey of jws is back on the road!
there is no need for any donations, so none will be asked for in any way, shape or form.
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Franklin Massey
Wow. These comments are fascinating. I can't even fathom the God of the Israelites being real anymore. With that goes the idea that that God is running the Watchtower Organization. It's interesting to see how some believe that God will "correct" the situation with the GB the way he "corrected" the situation with the Israelites. A close examination of any Judeo-Christian religious movement shows me that God isn't a very good CEO. But that's off topic.
As for the difference between the partking and mediator questions, I answered that the partaking issue didn't bother me but the mediator issue did. My reasons for this are: Partaking is a ritual. It's symbolic. To me, I could take it or leave it. No offense, but it seems silly. As for the mediator issue, even though I don't personally believe in the divinity of Christ, I would like to know that if I chose to accept Christ, he would be my personal mediator, as 1 Timothy 2:5 says he is. My heart goes out to those attempting to be true Christians within the JW religion who want Jesus to be their mediator, but are told they can't get it directly. No, they have to go through the "middle man," the annointed, who, as we know, have no real role in the WT Org, which shifts the control to the GB. As I type this, I can't help but feel that the GB have a Playground King sense of superiority. They make the rules. They decide who gets to hang with Jesus. Everyone else should just be lucky to be in the schoolyard.
I wish I could have filled the survey out as an elder but I stepped down recently and now I'm just a humble, low hour publisher ;)
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It's BACK - the 2011 Global Survey of JWs!!
by cedars ini'm pleased to announce that despite some considerable teething troubles (of which many of you will be aware!
), the 2011 survey of jws is back on the road!
there is no need for any donations, so none will be asked for in any way, shape or form.
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
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Franklin Massey
I tend to look at it in terms of "if we can accomplish this much with minimal effort, what might we achieve if we REALLY try?!"
Good point, Cedars.